Jim & Kilian: A Conversation On the Couch with Brian Metzler

The evening before the 2025 Western States Endurance Run, Jim Walmsley and Kilian Jornet sat down with Brian Metzler and the team at UltraSignup to talk about running and life. These two legends are often pitted against one another and when they are racing the competition is fierce, but in this setting they shared a casual conversation. They reflect on their roots, competition, aging in the sport, their partners as inspiration, supporting one another, and how the sport continues to evolve.

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